SDP members arrested outside the Istana, Singapore

panter92 Says:

Apr 17, 2008 - OMG, you really have to look even beyond. Can everything run smoothly with no discontent at all? Even the purest water cannot be 100% pure. There'll definitely be something inside other then H2O correct? So you say speeches are used to voice discontent eh? Discontent about what? They are the root of discontent. Look at Hitler. You will tell me that Weimar Germany was a mess and therefore powerless to stop Hitler. But what about during Hitler's years in power? Why were speeches disallowed? Guess

lysjanvier Says:

Apr 17, 2008 - "Can everything run smoothly with no discontent at all?"I have to admit that this sentence makes no sense to me.The Weimar Republic was a mess and therefore provided the conditions for Hitler's ascent. If the people were contented they would not have listened to him, no?Speeches are an incredibly powerful way to disseminate discontent caused by unhappy conditions, that's why they were disallowed. Better to keep discontent supressed.

panter92 Says:

Apr 17, 2008 - Sorry about that sentence. What I meant was, Can everything the government does please every single person? I was typing too fast without thinking earlier. Speeches are the powerful tools of recruitment for ones own causes. To exaggerate things a little, every single terrorist in the world became radicalised due to speeches or books. And that's because they have a strong idealistic ego to do what they think will make the world a better place without knowing that they are being disillusioned.

lysjanvier Says:

Apr 17, 2008 - That I agree with you, it is impossible to satisfy everyone and doing people pleasing policies with short term results are definitely not desirable. But I think certain recent policies haven't been successful but no less painful, which is the cause for all this unhappiness. You're right about the possibility of speeches being used to manipulate people and promote radicalism. But on the bright side I'd like to think it keeps the gov. in check, and freedom of speech is an undeniable right.

panter92 Says:

Apr 17, 2008 - Keep the government in check? Well, that depends doesn't it? Long time ago, when the BN was still active, they took advantage of the freedom of speech then to promote their own interest and gain support. They actually gave speeches to dissuade the people from supporting NS, industrialisation, HDB, and various other polices which were for the good of the nation and these speeches actually led to protests and riots. Naturally, any govt' would decide to take away that freedom to prevent unrest.

lysjanvier Says:

Apr 17, 2008 - "Naturally, any govt' would decide to take away that freedom to prevent unrest."Wow, okay, that's going too far. No organization has the perogative to decide and judge what is good for others. That is an individual's right, to decide what he wants, no one has the right to decide what another must do.BN, or any opposition, has the right to voice out what they think. If the policies are good, the results and facts will be speak for themselves. There is no need for suppression of speech.

lysjanvier Says:

Apr 17, 2008 - Some grammatical errors there, I was typing too fast, sorry.

panter92 Says:

Apr 17, 2008 - Yes, but what IF the government bows down to pressure and decides not to implement the policies for the good of the country? These events can always happen when we don't have a hard headed leader.Furthermore, your first paragraph is too.. simplistic. Of course the individual does not have the right to decide what he wants to do. He is accountable to others around him. Should he just act without thinking, won't society be chaotic now? Without laws, will there even be civilization? Think about it

panter92 Says:

Apr 17, 2008 - Sorry, Change simplistic to idealistic..

lysjanvier Says:

Apr 18, 2008 - Furthermore, your understanding of the situations is too.. simplistic. Having a right to choose what to do does not mean having to be self centered, or making bad decisions. You should give more credit to the human, he is not as stupid and incapable as you think.Having a personal right does not mean the absence of laws. It means the removal of overly invasive and unecessary laws. Like I said, not all policies are good.

Calleb87 Says:

May 14, 2008 - "What I meant was, Can everything the government does please every single person?"No, and thats why the government should do as little as possible.

panter92 Says:

May 16, 2008 - Wonder what in the world did you not mean. I don't understand you.

armyboy24 Says:

May 25, 2008 - Chee's life will be over before he even noes it...is he really fighting for Singaporeans? Or is he fighting for himself and his ego...look at Low Thia Kiang and Chiam See Thong, they are the ones i truly respect. They aim to help Singaporeans, by playing the game according to LKY's rules, only this way, they can help Singapore on the long run. Not like Chee, only noe how to play gimmicks like protests and do "little" things which can't benefit Singaporeans at all.

armyboy24 Says:

May 25, 2008 - Wow, running a country sounds damn easy. Why dun u take of LKY and show us ur great ideas?

solospec2003 Says:

Jun 6, 2008 - SDP is a fucking chink communist.

limywv06 Says:

Jun 20, 2008 - notice how he always tries to appear "helpless" and "weak" in every single arrest video of his.very cunning indeedchee's sister btw looks like an old auntie now...and what has she accomplished to date?haha nothing but wasting her life away, earning some wrinkles along the way

ajunk85 Says:

Jul 7, 2008 - i love singapore

fujilar Says:

Aug 15, 2008 - this group of people should leave singapore... save all the conflict

fujilar Says:

Aug 15, 2008 - that guy look like steven lim... he want to rule sg.... wait for next life man.. sg will fall under his rule with that bunch of idiotic protester..

joos0202 Says:

Aug 21, 2008 - This seems like sensitive classified information. If it is so, even our enemies will have access if this becomes transparent. Have Chee and his people explained why it is important without endangering our security?

chaingang90 Says:

Aug 27, 2008 - lol, my class has an autistic person, and his behaviour seems to resemble that of chee....hahahahaha

honchochief Says:

Sep 28, 2008 - like a kid in school never grow up sad case of mad ppl

SeventhSun Says:

Sep 29, 2008 - I thought those children in red were just having a stroll and enjoying the afternoon breeze... as usual it has to be more that that.

SeventhSun Says:

Sep 29, 2008 - I wonder what Chee Soon Juan's old classmates in the ACS fraternity actually thinks of him.I expect at least uproarious laughter.

SeventhSun Says:

Sep 29, 2008 - Hahaha you're cruel~!