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AnaMariaMeldelen Says:
Jul 29, 2008 - Sadie is not the best in bellydance at all, and "real bellydance" can be considered a lot of styles and techniques. There is not a "real bellydance" or a "best bellydancer", there are only too many styles and a lot of excellent bellydancers. You need to open your mind and see more than Sadie.
culturedandchic Says:
Jul 31, 2008 - I, too, love Sadie, but she would be nothing without people like Samia breaking ground before her. I'm sure Sadie herself would agree - she's just the modern face of bellydance.
mom2raiandjas Says:
Aug 8, 2008 - I agree with the others who replied to this comment. There would be no Sadie, Rachel Brice, or Jillina if it weren't for the legendary dancers who came before them. I agree that one needs to open the mind and see more than Sadie-sure, she is great at pop and lock, but Samia has a classic LADYLIKE presence, unlike some of the things Sadie and her partner Kaya have performed.
25skool Says:
Aug 11, 2008 - i have always loved her, so much better than that Sadie girl.......plz don't compare
mooshikishi Says:
Aug 11, 2008 - True, there would have been no Sadie or Rachel Brice without dancers like Samia Gamal. We have to give them credit for that. But I say Rachel Brice and Sadie have improved on belly dance much. The belly dance that they give us now have more complicated moves and take a greater level of skill to perform than the one on this video.
iuyaneli Says:
Aug 12, 2008 - Boring as hell! Is that bellydance at all? That just looks like interpretative dance. And you dare say she's better than Sadie? LOL!
halfpintmya Says:
Aug 12, 2008 - You're cross comparing styles even which doesn't make any sense, you can't compare AmCab with Egyptian and measure them by the same scale - the two have very different characteristics and it is unfair to both to compare them in this way.Your response just makes you appear to be quite ignorant.
halfpintmya Says:
Aug 12, 2008 - You are judging bellydance as though it's just about movement, taking it completely out of the cultural context. Many people will argue the Tribal Fusion is not even bellydance.The fact of the matter is that neither Sadie nor Rachel, lovely as what they do might be, truly reflect the cultural essence that makes this dance what it is.Wearing bedleh and being able to isolate and move well does not make bellydance.In this respect Samia Gamal will always be superior to these ladies.
mooshikishi Says:
Aug 16, 2008 - Well, as long as a dance is kept alive it will go on evolving. Dances never remain stagnant as long as there are people dancing and teaching them. As you have noticed, most dances that are "faithful" to their cultural contexts are considered boring and unappealing alongside their derivations. The derivations are there because they are, in more ways than one, improvements of the dance.
mooshikishi Says:
Aug 16, 2008 - If you use that argument to say that all the other styles of belly dance are not really belly dance, that same logic can be used to prove that the English language we have now is not really English as it has deviated hugely from Old English, the "original" or "real" English, because the Old English is a Germanic tongue while the English we have now has borrowed a lot of words from French. We have American English, British English, Australian English, etc. And they are all English, aren't they?
mooshikishi Says:
Aug 16, 2008 - With that in mind, I don't think anyone can simply say that other belly dance styles are not belly dance.There are a lot of people who love Samia because she has paved the way for other belly dancers. For that she deserves the credit. But we can clearly see that when we talk about skills, Samia loses the top spot to many other contemporary belly dancers.
naomivanm Says:
Aug 17, 2008 - In general, i think the old-style belly-dancers use more footwork, wich is consider the most difficult part of belly-dance. And consider they dance on heels!!!! They also keep to the rythm very well.Well, wether you prefer this style or the newer style, it's for sure i've never seen a woman with such a waist, haha!
momentofserenity Says:
Aug 26, 2008 - The contemporary belly dancing might appeal to many of you but that doesn't mean it holds the true essence of belly dancing. The real belly dancer is the one who sets her self free when she dances and enjoys every moment of her dance until you no longer know whether she is dancing to the music or the music is playing to her movements. It is all about grace, grace and grace. Once the belly dancer consciously thinks about any technique, it's no longer the belly dancing in its truest form.
momentofserenity Says:
Aug 26, 2008 - Look at Samia Gamal's eyes, smile and her hands. Every single part of her body is unconsciously following the wave created in her belly. It might appear insignificant to you but the whole body is moving gracefully around the centre (i.e. the belly).When English people translated the word "raqs sharqi" into bellydancing, they just killed the essence of our oriental dance.Back to the clip, thanks for sharing another great dance vid from the eternal Samia Gamal.
iuyaneli Says:
Sep 28, 2008 - You can call me ignorant if you want to, but it does not take an expert to see that Sadie's moves are harder to execute than Samia's. And Sadie does it beautifully, too. When compared side by side, Sadie BELLY DANCES; Samia just prances around.
iuyaneli Says:
Sep 28, 2008 - If that is your definition of belly dance, then I guess everyone who moves gracefully, even though they have not been trained in belly dance, can dance to some music and set themselves free in a flurry of movements and that can be called belly dance.As the commenter said below, belly dance has branched and evolved. You can't say that contemporary belly dance styles are not belly dance the same way you can't say that human beings are not human beings because we are not Homo erectus anymore.
iuyaneli Says:
Sep 28, 2008 - However, I do agree with you that Samia is very graceful and has facial expressions that go beautifully with her dance. She is radiant and pleasant to watch as she dances. I also find her very pretty. She is a good dancer, that we can't dispute. I just can't imagine that many consider Samia the best belly dancer by virtue of her being one of the originals. Original deserves credit and praise, but original does not necessarily mean the best.
momentofserenity Says:
Sep 28, 2008 - My definition of oriental dance (what westerners call it bellydancing) is that every part of the body is dancing gracefully around the belly without forcing it or making it look too technical.The contemporary bellydancing i see in sadie's clips gives me an impression she's working out her abs in rhythm.Bellydancing has evolved throughout the years. Watch out for Suhair Zaky and Nawga Fouad whose styles were different from those of Samia Gamal and Taheya Carioca yet all exude the grace.
momentofserenity Says:
Sep 28, 2008 - Anyone can move their bodies in rhythm but not anyone can do it in fluid-like manner. It requires a real talent and dedicated training to achieve that. The same goes for ballet and other forms of dancing.I don't believe in the game of the best because everyone of us has a different perception of what the best is. Also, each of the original and contemporary bellydancers has her own space. Me liking Samia Gamal doesn't mean she is the only one out there.
halfpintmya Says:
Sep 29, 2008 - It does not take an expert to see moves that appear to be more technically difficult, but it DOES take someone knowledgable of the dance to recognise that it is about FAR more than technical proficiency.I've said it before & i'll say it again, wearing bedleh & doing superb isolations does not a bellydancer make.Sadie is lovely at what she does - AmCab, but she can't compare to what Samia is to Egyptian style purely because she's missing the cultural essence & it shows.
halfpintmya Says:
Sep 29, 2008 - As someone with a language background, i would be the first to say that English is the Tribal Fusion of languages =)It's a lot of stuff from alot of different roots, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as we acknowledge it for being that.Similarly i would acknowledge Tribal Fusion, ATS and even AmCab as being not original bellydance but fusions - BEAUTIFUL fusions, but still fusions, just as modern English is beautiful, but not original english.
halfpintmya Says:
Sep 29, 2008 - I don't believe anyone is busy claiming Aussie English is better than American English though - because it is recognised that they are DIFFERENT for cultural & historical reasons and therefore have different characteristics.
halfpintmya Says:
Sep 29, 2008 - To follow up from your and my posts above - Samia & Sadie can't be compared as one being better than the other because their styles have different characteristics. One might talk about which style you prefer. Saying that sadie is BETTER for doing something that Samia doesn't is as absurd as saying that Brit English is better tha American because it spells colour with a u.The skill set for Western Bellydance is DIFFERENT from the skill set for Egyptian, so i don't clearly see your point at all.
sehef Says:
Oct 8, 2008 - el est trop bonne





marmarar Says:
Jul 28, 2008 - If you want to know what the real art of belly dancing is,search Sadie BellyDance at youtub