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gproper Says:

Nov 15, 2008 - Wow i got thumbs down. lol's

kickflipking06 Says:

Nov 15, 2008 - actualy u are pretty ignorant ignore fact that is right in front of ur face ppl like you i guess are the ones dat say d dinosaurs r gods way of testing us do u know how dumb dat is to say how is a creature dat lived way before us and their is proof everywhere just a figment of or imaginations let me ASk u something if god created d universe in 7 days who created god and dont say god was ever present cuz thats a load of shit science proves dis but idiots souch as urselfs deny

kickflipking06 Says:

Nov 15, 2008 - hey its true i mean cuz of ppl like dat jerk off dat d crusades happend and countless ppl were killed for not believing in god freaking morons

gproper Says:

Nov 15, 2008 - Look at it this way,if you die and God isn't real,then your ok So i will be as well.Because i believe and you don'tNow if God is Real "AND HE DOES EXIST"Then im still safe and your pretty much...FUCKEDRegardless of the fact that i am a believer,ill be safe no matte what.But in the cast of those who don't :(Well:)

gproper Says:

Nov 15, 2008 - I never said i ignored facts.Just depends on what you are going to determine what a fact is.And who cares of God created the universe in five minutes.He is the creator of everything,even youYou and i are finite beings, we cannot handle certain thoughts.And you don't understand me because you cannot discern spiritual things,but i can.so if you really wanna know the truth then get with it.but first you need to let go of the bullshit that been set into your heart.

sciusciammocca Says:

Nov 16, 2008 - I agree with u almost on all u say, the only thing that is not as u say is: When something bad occurs they don't turn they back on god, but worst they say that god gave usfree will, so when a war start is our own fault, when a war ends is god who did it. Very smart, or at least the church believe to be very smart, luckly ppl is waking up more n more n my hope is that all this shit soon will be over

paulcaira Says:

Nov 16, 2008 - You're not safe. What if it's the God of the muslims that exists? Or the God of the old style Catholics, who will damn you for having rejected his grace? You're fucked too, aren't you? What if the real God who exists is not the one that we all want to exist, but one that enjoys the suffering of humans (which all the evidence points to)?So Pascal's wager might have worked when there was only either unbelief or the Roman Catholic church, but in a multi-cultural world, it's shit, isn't it?

gproper Says:

Nov 16, 2008 - God that i believe in Loves us,So all that you argue about is irrelevant.I don't have time for what if's and remarks coming from a person who cannot see spiritually.

paulcaira Says:

Nov 17, 2008 - Not at all irrelevant. You claimed that believing in God was a wise course because we were all in trouble if he turns out to exist. But YOU'RE in trouble if the one that exists turns out to be NOT the one you believe in. Is this too difficult for you? Okay, try this: If the God you believe in loves us, and it's a true love, it won't depend on such trivial matters as whether we believed in him. So we're all safe if we DON'T believe.

paulcaira Says:

Nov 17, 2008 - Yeah, like the tapeworm, and the ichneumon wasp.

gproper Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - God is Love.But the god of this world isn'tI cant imagine being alive without faith in God,I would have NOTHING to live for "like you"SO, Like i said you cannot discern spiritual things,but i can.What do you live for ?Think about it and answer that in layman's terms.

paulcaira Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - So it's a failure of your imagination that's the problem then? You can't understand how it's possible to live without faith in God. Believe me it's possible. The things I have to live for are the same as everyone's - daily satisfaction of my work, pleasure in seeing my children grow, the creation and the enjoyment of art of whatever form. Do you need God to give these meaning? Why?

paulcaira Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - Also, I really do think you should think about what it sounds like when religious people say 'But I have X and you don't.' If you are right, and there's a spiritual world that you can discern and I can't, did God make things this way, or is it because I am in some way evil? Have you ever heard of the word "meme"?

gproper Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - And i am not 'religious'Your not evil but decisions you make are.But their are people on earth who don't belong here who are.They are fallen angels.and im done.you cannot make me question my faith,i am not religious.and im wasting my valuable time with you, if you wont stop and think about what im telling you ,then whats the point.

gproper Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - Oh people can live for these things,but what if its all taken away,and i said I cannot live without the understanding that there is more After life.and i am a creative person i do have a great imagination,but i also have faith.

paulcaira Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - Which decisions I make?"Judge not, lest ye be judged"

gproper Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - lol , im not judging you, im only making an observation, the point do you believe God is real ?

paulcaira Says:

Nov 18, 2008 - What 'your decisions are evil' is an observation, not a judgement? I beg to differ!

gproper Says:

Nov 19, 2008 - Well i was only making a generalization as i have not been around you and i certainly don't know you.What do you believe in ?

paulcaira Says:

Nov 19, 2008 - But that's precisely the reason you shouldn't have said it! Why tell me that the decisions I make are evil, if you now acknowledge that you don't have a clue what they might have been? I believe in the strength of the human spirit, the power of the human intellect (at its best!) and that God is the very worst answer given to many worthwhile questions, for the simple reason that it is a human fantasy.

gproper Says:

Nov 19, 2008 - God gave us our soul,and i have His spirit in me.im sorry you feel that way,but with him in my life,i haven't been any happier.Have a great day.

sefoderfilhadap Says:

Nov 21, 2008 - o bagulho eh em portugues e os kra ficam discutindo em ingles...

DeafBlueDragon Says:

Nov 25, 2008 - Have you ever hear that Catholics will always have sin and whip themselves with prayer?? But In the bible does never say about allowing to whip themselves with prayer.. That don't fit in the bible.. God does not like people who Whipping themselves with prayer.. He didn't make people to rip their skin.. Do I believe in Catholic? NO!! I believe in the right church the right bible.. There are no reason to whip themselves in prayer for their sin. Doesn't work that way..Pluse gproper is right.

Gotmoney0867 Says:

Nov 25, 2008 - this is fucking shit

paulcaira Says:

Nov 25, 2008 - I don't have a clue what you're saying here, nor what it has to do with what I said. Also, just saying someone is right don't make it so.